The Sinking Ship of "the Manosphere"
An off-the-cuff response on Twitter to some very old and very bad "wisdom" that it's time to sink to the bottom of the ocean
Aly Dee @realfemsapien posted the following Tweet this morning…
… and fresh off a morning workout where I looked around my gym through the eyes of “Christian patriarchy,” witnessing the disaster that our world has become post-Sexual Revolution, I had a few thoughts.
For context, the idea that Aly is talking about comes from the “Manosphere,” which was a generation of the men’s movement that prioritized getting rich, getting fit, and getting laid as a lifestyle. They described it as “becoming a high value man.”
These ideas seemed good for awhile, but time has revealed how deeply flawed they are. And today in 2024, the Manosphere and all its content creators are sinking to the bottom of the ocean, save for a few who escaped to other professions, or found redemption in Christ.
But apparently this “wait at the finish line” idea is still propagating. So I decided to do what I can to end it, and propose a better standard. Some might not like the standard, because it’s really God’s. But it’s not like they have anything better to offer.
You can read (and re-share) the original tweet here: LINK.
"Women wait at the finish line and pick the winners," is one of the dumbest and yet inexplicably most popular lines to ever come out of the "Manosphere"—a degenerate world self-aggrandizement and idolatry that, praise God, has all but sunk.
The line sounds self-evident, until you actually look at it closely.
When you do, it becomes apparent that the Red Pill / Manosphere is just the child of Feminism, raised in a single-mother household. And maybe with an incestuous relationship.
@realfemsapies is one of the good ones, so I think she's asking in good faith, and probably trying to make a point, as she does. But here are a few answers to her question. Write these down somewhere:
1. Because at the finish line, women don't pick the winner. The winner picks you. That's what winners do. So the whole idea is broken.
2. Because there's only one winner. All but one woman will be stuck with a "loser."
3. Because a winner might want more than you. He might want your friend too, because he's a winner. If you believe a real winner will bend to a woman's terms, you don't understand winners. You bend to HIS terms. Because there's only one of him, he is the rare commodity. You're not.
4. To winners, women are therefore disposable. Look at Leonardo DiCaprio, for example. All he has to do is win another race, and pick another woman. So much for your "power of choice."
5. If you only pick a man because he's a "winner," what happens when he gets injured or can't run as fast? What happens when he gets old and wins his last race? Does this question not objectify men in the same way women hate to be objectified?
But most importantly...
6. This is never how it's worked throughout history for the vast majority of humanity. In the real world outside of boys being raised by Hollywood, men and women married young. Then she helped him win by making a home and nurturing children, which provided added fuel for his ambition and reason to work harder than he ever would for himself.
In that, they all won together.
Now following Marxism, Feminism, and Post-Modernism, all we can think about is our selfish selves.
"I won the race. I get a prize, hurr durr."
"He won the race. He's my prize, hurr durr."
NO ONE USED TO THINK LIKE THIS.
People understood intuitively and had it reinforced culturally that marriage and family were the standard. The 10's married the 10's, the 9's the 9's, and on down the chain pretty rapidly before age 25. Certainly long before any "races" were won.
It wasn't, "I'm gonna keep my options open until the last minute."
Maybe this was true for a small handful of elites like kings, queens, and nobles. But if everyone on Earth waited for the "end of the race," the human race would end. Because footraces take time, and fertility has a window that closes. That means birth rates would crash...
And lo and behold, here we are! Amazing. Perhaps now you can see that the Manosphere actually worships women's sexual selection as a idol, no different from Feminism but with more posturing. Genuine human courtship and marriage looks very different.
So women, don't wait at the finish line for a winner. Find a good man and help him win.
Men, don't think you have to complete the race to be worthy of a wife.
And for God's sake, pastors and fathers need to get their hands on this situation and start telling ladies that waiting until 35 to look for a man is not how this is gonna go down.
Yeah I know, you're scared of your wives and daughters. But guess what, unless you do something about this, two things will happen:
First, you won't have a next generation of the Christian church, or you'll have a greatly-reduced one with even more reduced political and economic power. (So much for "Christian Nationalism.")
But more importantly...
Men and women will continue going to the Manosphere to get bad advice like this. Because you're too afraid to talk to them about it.
My men’s retreat is coming up on October 18-21 here in Phoenix. A weekend of grounded Christian fellowship, brotherhood, and training. Without any Manosphere nonsense:
October 2024 Men's Retreat
Amidst the chaos of our modern era, it’s more important than ever that Christian men gather face-to-face to build fellowship. Even though the name of my podcast is changing, I still believe in that mission very much.






This is the key bit:
"I'm gonna keep my options open until the last minute."
Where's the value-add in that? It's all about taking, not contributing, like the 'clever' investor who's going to wait until the last minute, then buy the hot stock just before it takes off. But life doesn't work like that. By the time success is apparent, it's way too late. And typically, even the really successful entities don't look that hot for a long time. You have to commit (actually buy the stock) to share in whatever upside there is.
Do people not read biographies anymore? This is all just common sense, and wisdom that is available in any library, free for the taking (and time commitment to read). Or just pick up the Bible and read about Noah, Abram/Abraham, Sarai/Sarah, Jacob, Moses, David, Elizabeth, on and on, they all went through a lot of tough times before coming out on top.